[DRBD-user] Testing new DRBD9 dedicated repo for PVE

Cesar Peschiera brain at click.com.py
Wed Jan 4 17:07:49 CET 2017

Note: "permalinks" may not be as permanent as we would like,
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I am agree.

In any environment (lab, production, critical, etc), if between PVE and 
LINBIT not has a perfect coordination for publish the updates of packages 
for that together works perfectly, simply all people will stop using DRBD.

Also, if the plugin(s) of LINBIT not add features as monitor stats for DRBD, 
and maybe other functions, of sure that with the time, DRBD will be 
relegated, and it will not be good for the business of LINBIT.

So, I suppose the best thing would be that between PVE and LINBIT talk and 
study the possibility of has a more close union, remember that the final 
customer is who determine the tools that be more easy of use and give them 
more benefits.

BR
Cesar

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Enrica Ruedin" <e.ruedin at guggach.com>
To: <drbd-user at lists.linbit.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2017 7:02 AM
Subject: Re: [DRBD-user] Testing new DRBD9 dedicated repo for PVE


Hello Dietmar

You confirm exactly what I was afraid of. I fully agree that the package of 
Linbit's drbdmanage shouldn't be in your package but I don't agree 
concerning the DRBDPlugin.pm in '/usr/share/perl5/PVE/Storage'.  This perl 
script is the interface between PVE and DRBD. A stable or coordinated 
versioning between 'PVE package - DRBDPlugin.pm - DRBD package' will be 
critical.

A version change on Linbit's side or PVE side without adaption of the plugin 
could hit a stable environment. I don't know who should be the 
owner/developer of 'DRBDPlugin.pm', but anyway it needs a coordination 
especially if PVE/DRBD9 is used in production. So I understand Michele's 
hesitation.

Regards,
Enrica

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: drbd-user-bounces at lists.linbit.com 
[mailto:drbd-user-bounces at lists.linbit.com] Im Auftrag von Dietmar Maurer
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 4. Januar 2017 10:20
An: Roland Kammerer <roland.kammerer at linbit.com>; drbd-user at lists.linbit.com
Betreff: Re: [DRBD-user] Testing new DRBD9 dedicated repo for PVE

> In the end the license - and sure IANAL - is a "do whatever you like,
> but don't interfere with LINBIT's support business". IMO that's it.
> This was not a move against Proxmox at all, there are other vendors
> not playing nice... Just writing that because on the ML I have the
> impression that there is some kind of "Proxmox vs. LINBIT". It isn't.

I fully agree here.

> For the "has to remove [...] completely": Puh, dangerous territory to
> comment on, but that was the decision of Proxmox.

No, your new license implies that. It would be illegal to provide support 
(in any way) for drbdmanage.

Besides, it would not make any sense to have two repositories including the 
same packages - what for?

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