Note: "permalinks" may not be as permanent as we would like,
direct links of old sources may well be a few messages off.
If you want automatic recovery of any sort, yes, it is required to avoid a split brain. On 13/05/15 03:00 AM, DRBD User wrote: > So for a primary/secondary setup I have to deal with fencing/stonith too ? > > I am using RHEL 7 and i can't find the fence_ack_manual command (for test purposes) ? > > > > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 13. Mai 2015 um 08:40 Uhr > Von: Digimer <lists at alteeve.ca> > An: "DRBD User" <DRBDUser at gmx.at>, drbd-user at lists.linbit.com > Betreff: Re: [DRBD-user] Dual Primary Mode: Shared Directory blocked after node crash until reboot > On 13/05/15 02:36 AM, DRBD User wrote: >> Ok i understand: >> >> In a dual primary setup without a valid stonith configuration i have to wait until the crashed node is set to a *known* state: eg. using reboot, manual intervention. >> >> But what if the crashed node never gets alive: >> Will the stonith setup set the state of the crashed node to a *known* state, so that the active node can continue to operate ? >> Or do I have to intervene manually ? >> >> So for my plan to have a high available service (which saves its state to a shared directory) a primary/secondary setup may be the way to go - or i is fencing/stonith always a must ? > > The cluster (and DRBD) will remain blocked indefinitely. The only way to > resume operation is when fencing succeeds or a human tells DRBD that the > lost node is offline (via manual intervention). > > As an aside; Red Hat used to support manual fencing, but dropped support > for it when RHEL 6 was released in 2010. The reason was that, on paper, > manual fencing sounds fine. In practice, it was often misused and lead > to split-brains. > > Consider; A cluster is locked up, people are screaming and the poor > admin is trying to remember what to after a year of not touching things. > s/he remembers about manually clearing the fence and then does so > without first verifying the last node was off/dead. Is such a case, you > have a split-brain and all the potential damage that goes with it. > > Get hardware fencing. It is the only sane and sensible option. > > -- > Digimer > Papers and Projects: https://alteeve.ca/w/ > What if the cure for cancer is trapped in the mind of a person without > access to education? > _______________________________________________ > drbd-user mailing list > drbd-user at lists.linbit.com > http://lists.linbit.com/mailman/listinfo/drbd-user[http://lists.linbit.com/mailman/listinfo/drbd-user] > _______________________________________________ > drbd-user mailing list > drbd-user at lists.linbit.com > http://lists.linbit.com/mailman/listinfo/drbd-user > -- Digimer Papers and Projects: https://alteeve.ca/w/ What if the cure for cancer is trapped in the mind of a person without access to education?