Note: "permalinks" may not be as permanent as we would like,
direct links of old sources may well be a few messages off.
Hi I am exploring the use of DRBD as a backup system for some servers. So far I've installed it on a couple of test servers, and it's worked well - once I understood some idiosynchrasies of the command line :) But my objective is a little more ambitious than just making a single online backup. What I'd ideally like to do - and I've seen this asked for before - is achieve incremental backup also, so I have both the current backup of the server and also a backup from last week, for example. Of course, I can do this by taking down the DRBD connection, and using a simple DD to backup the secondary. But my servers are quite big - 100gb or so - and it's hard to do this in a realistic time. I have figured out a number of creative solutions to this: - Run DBRD on top of LVM - Run Ext3Cow (copy-on-write filesystem) on top of DRBD - Run DRBD on top of cowloop (a copy-on-write block driver) But there's a snag with each of them: - LVM seems inefficient if you add multiple snapshots - Ext3Cow has no way of deleteing snapshots - DRBD won't actually load on top of cowloop ... I guess I should say that this is largely an experimental endeavour - if I can make it work, it would solve a problem, but I am also just curious about what's possibe. So.. I have some questions: How to take backups of the secondary ? ---------------------------------------------------------- Imagine this case: - My main server, 'alpha' is primary - My backup server, 'beta' is secondary At midnight, I want to take an additional backup of the secondary. I only need RO access, but I'm not supposed to mount the secondary. This is my approach: - Disconnect DRDB - Change beta to primary - Mount it - Make a backup - Unmount - Change it back to secondary - Reconnect It this correct? What about this: - Disconnect DBRD - Sync drives - Mount either the DRBD device or the underlying physical disk RO - Make backup.. Can you tell if there are sectors waiting to sync? ------------------------------------------------------------------- Imagine we have the previous example, and while DRBD is disconnected someone on the primary server copies a 100mb file to the drive. This means we have 100mb waiting to sync.. I tried exactly this case, copying a 100mb file, then reconnecting. I then immediate ran cat /proc/dbrd - but it did not show sync in progress. If there are sectors being written because of a reconnect, does DRBD show them on proc? (It occurs to me now that the 100mb file I copied was probably sparse, so it may have had a very small amount of real data, although the copy took a long time) How does DRBD decide which way to Sync? ---------------------------------------------------------------- Just curious... Imagine the scenario above again, but this time I write sectors to both drives while disconnected. How does DRBD decide which one is primary? If I make one secondary before the reconnect, does it assume that one is to be overwritten? I guess I should try it out... Incremental Backup ---------------------------- Has anyone tried any of the incremental backup solutions listed above? Finally - has anyone patched DBRD to include snapshots? Or is this a possible future feature? Best Regards Martin Green -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.linbit.com/pipermail/drbd-user/attachments/20050206/0b9689f4/attachment.htm>