[DRBD-user] difference in speed when using external metadata

Dave Graham daveg at cirtas.com
Fri Jan 14 14:11:26 CET 2011

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Mark,

Your supermicro controllers are bog-stock LSI SAS controllers so,
functionality will be derived from their driver tree.  Supermicro's UIO
cards are essentially inverted PCIe cards so, no FUNCTIONAL changes, just
electrical. 

Cheers,

Dave
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On 1/13/11 3:07 PM, "Mark Morlino" <mrmorlino at alaska.edu> wrote:

>On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Bart Coninckx
><bart.coninckx at telenet.be> wrote:
>> On Monday 10 January 2011 19:40:17 J. Ryan Earl wrote:
>>> On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 10:03 AM, Bart Coninckx
>> <bart.coninckx at telenet.be>wrote:
>>> > Hi all,
>>> >
>>> > am reading the Novell docs on DRBD and one of the ways they mention
>>>to
>>> > speed
>>> > up DRBD is using external metadata. Possibly a hard question to
>>>answer
>>> > but could someone indicate by what degree this would enhance speed
>>> > (provided using
>>> > a sufficient fast disk for the metadata, like a SSD)?
>>> >
>>> > thx!
>>> >
>>> > Bart
>>>
>>> A RAID controller with a backed-write cache essentially nullifies
>>> any advantage there.  A RAID controller that can instantly return on
>>> FUA-writes is what you want.
>>> -JR
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> so the essence of your answer is that this is not a matter of having
>>metadata
>> internal or external, but rather of having the right RAID controller?
>> Do you have examples of these in the major brands (HP, Dell, ...) ?
>>
>> thx!
>>
>>
>>
>> B.
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>
>I would be interested in this information too (in my case I'd be
>interested in any supermicro controllers that meet this requirement).
>If I understand correctly, an FUA-write is a write-through request.
>Doesn't that mean that the controller should not return until
>everything has been physically written to the disk? It seems to me
>that in order to return instantly on an FUA-write, the controller
>would have to ignore the FUA request and return once the data has been
>written to the cache. I don't see how it can both force physical disk
>access and return instantly. Perhaps I'm missing something, it
>certainly wouldn't be the first time.
>
>-Mark
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